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Jamie Glazov interviews Dave Gaubatz


Frontpage Interview's guest today is Dave Gaubatz, the first U.S. civilian (1811) Federal Agent deployed to Iraq in 2003. He is currently the Director of the Mapping Sharia Project and the owner of DG Counter-terrorism Publishing ( He can be contacted at

FP: Dave Gaubatz, welcome to Frontpage Interview. You have recently uncovered Muslim Brotherhood material in the U.S. Tell us about it.

Gaubatz: Thanks, Jamie.

For several years I have reported publically and to law enforcement personnel that Halalco Books,[1] located in Falls Church, VA, services and distributes Islamic terrorist material to Islamic Centers/Mosques throughout the U.S.

Dar al Hijrah leaders in Fairfax, VA, had first informed me that in order to be a 'Pure Muslim' I must use only authorized and correct materials and these materials could be located at Halalco. During my many visits to Halalco I have been provided materials and been invited to the homes of Halalco employees. Halalco is managed by Sunni personnel and can be best described in their own words as 'Pure Muslims'. The Shiite people are not recognized as Muslim.

On 3 June 2009, I again visited Halalco. I wanted to see if any new materials were being promoted since President Obama took office and he was due to speak to the 'Muslim World' in Egypt on 4 June 2009. Additionally, as you know, the Obama Administration had invited members of the Muslim Brotherhood to attend his speech.

FP: Yes indeed. Ok, so what specifically did you find?

Gaubatz: A very disturbing 24 page manual by the founder (Imam Hassan al-Banna) of "The Muslim Brotherhood'. The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in 1928. The manual Halalco was now distributing was titled "Message For Youth'. The manual was being reproduced, promoted, and distributed for the benefit of Muslims in 2009. It is very specific on how the youth are to become martyrs through physical Jihad in order to meet the objectives of the Mother Brotherhood, specifically how to implement an Islamic Ummah (Nation) under Sharia Law worldwide.

FP: You have often focused your first-hand research on Islamic materials instead of what an Islamic leader currently says during prayers/lectures. Why?

Gaubatz: The only people who can get away with openly lying, causing harm to our troops/ country, and turn our country from a democracy/free market into a Socialist nation under many Sharia compliant aspects are elected politicians. Islamic scholars realize even under Obama, they can't (to date) verbalize treason and sedition against America. They do realize it is still accepted to call for sedition/treason, and murder of innocent people in written and video formats. These formats of communicating hatred toward America are somehow believed to be covered under our U.S. Constitutions First Amendment. Islamic leaders are taking advantage of our naiveness and regardless of what our law enforcement and politicians believe, America is under attack and inside the U.S. we are losing our country inch by inch.

FP: Why do you believe Halalco are openly distributing Muslim Brotherhood material?

Gaubatz: The management has done so for years, but it is more abundant and now targeted for the Muslim Youth. The more President Obama condones and gives substance to Islamic terrorist groups and their supporters, such as Saudi Arabia, Iran and Palestine, the more terrorist supporters in the U.S. feel justified in distributing their materials. I have observed more violent Islamic terrorist material being distributed since Obama took office.

How many parents have to lose a son or daughter before Americans understand incidents similar to the murder by a Muslim convert[2] are not 'isolated' and are indeed condoned by Islamic leaders throughout our country?

The murderer Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad killed the military recruiter not because of 'extremism' but because this is what is being taught in Islamic Centers throughout America by Saudi, Egyptian, and Pakistani trained Muslim leaders. If the largest percentage of Islamic Centers/mosques is advocating such violence, are they extremist or are they the norm?

For several years counter-terrorism professionals and I have informed the public about violent materials distributed in America specifically calling for Muslims to kill innocent men, women, and children. I have personally visited over 200 such mosques and provided first-hand evidence.

Why do our elected officials and law enforcement ignore the obvious? There are no legitimate reasons to ignore evidence advocating killing people and conducting treason/sedition against our country.

FP: Can you provide some statements from the Muslim Brotherhood material you obtained?

Gaubatz: I believe this is exactly what is needed. I would like to give credit to Dr. Bill Warner, Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI), who made a statement on 30 May 2009 at the New English Review Symposium in Nashville, TN. Dr. Warner informed the audience essentially instead of restricting Islamic materials we should provide more information so the American public can understand Islam in its totality. I add that if people viewed everything being provided to Muslims they would understand not only Sept. 11th, 2001, but the murder of a U.S. military recruiter, the beheading of a Muslim wife, or plots to destroy military installations are what the Muslim Brotherhood and its supporters advocate.

The following five statements are just a sampling of what is being advocated to the Muslim Youth by the Muslim Brotherhood not only in Egypt, England, Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, but within a few minutes from our 'godlike' U.S. President.

  1. "Liberate the homeland from all un-Islamic or foreign control, whether political, economic, or ideological'.

  2. "If the government neglects its duties and falls short of its responsibilities, then it will be the duty of the people to first advise and guide, then to dismiss and remove the government, for No obedience is due to a creature who is disobedient to the Creator'.

  3. "Formation: This is achieved by selecting and consolidating those members who can bear the burden of jihad (all out struggle). The training in this phase comprises spiritual refinement and military preparation…the mode of work is represented by the fraternal battalions'.

  4. "Always cherish the intention of jihad and the desire for martyrdom in the Way of Allah, and actually prepare yourself for that. Introduce yourself and become thoroughly acquainted with the members of your battalion one by one'.

  5. "Allah is our goal; the messenger is our example; the Quran is our constitution; jihad is our means; and martyrdom in the way of Allah is our aspiration. These can be condensed further into five words: plainness, recitation, prayer, military preparedness, and manners'.

Readers can view my site at[3] to obtain a complete copy of this 24 page Muslim Brotherhood manual.

Possibly if Americans (specifically law enforcement and politicians) took 30 minutes out of their schedules each day to study the same materials being provided to the Muslim Youth, they would come to the conclusion the teachings of Islam are very violent and will understand tragic incidents by young Muslims are not isolated, but are calculated tactics endorsed by Islamic leaders. The Islamic leaders in America are able to meet their objectives, yet remain free because they can rely on lone Muslims to carry out single and seemingly isolated murders across America which will seldom make the headlines of any news organization.

FP: Final words?

Gaubatz: I will mention two names: Christine Hanson and Juliana Valentine McCourt. Who are they? Have you ever heard President Obama speak of them? Do the media ever speak of them? Christine was 2 years old and Juliana was 4 years old when they lost their innocent lives to supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood ideology on Sept. 11th, 2001. Both children were passengers on United Airlines flight 175 that crashed into the World Trade Center.

People should try and imagine how scared the children must have been, and their parents. What was going through the parents minds when they saw New York City from a few hundred feet below their aircraft and realized their children only had a few seconds to live?

Readers should try to imagine the horror the children and parents must have felt. If you believe your child could not become the next Christine or Juliana you have underestimated the mindset of the Islamic terrorist.

FP: Dave Gaubatz, thank you for joining Frontpage Interview.

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Jamie Glazov is Frontpage Magazine's editor. He holds a Ph.D. in History with a specialty in Russian, U.S. and Canadian foreign policy. He is the author of Canadian Policy Toward Khrushchev's Soviet Union and is the co-editor (with David Horowitz) of The Hate America Left. He edited and wrote the introduction to David Horowitz's Left Illusions. His new book is United in Hate: The Left's Romance with Tyranny and Terror. To see his previous symposiums, interviews and articles Click Here. Email him at

This article appeared June 12, 2009 on Front Page Magazine and is archived at


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